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#91370 - 08/19/10 09:41 PM Questions about books
kittydoctor Offline
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Registered: 07/18/06
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Loc: West Texas
I have all my books. In summer, prof gave us some of Restatement Second of K.

For K and Torts, should I buy the restatements? It's second for K, third for Torts.

Thanks.

Anyone else with book questions? My advice-dont' buy new! Sell after semester. Use outline for bar. Agree, grads?
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#91373 - 08/19/10 11:41 PM Re: Questions about books [Re: kittydoctor]
AnnaD Online   content
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Kittydoctor - the Restatements are actually fairly massive and expensive things, if I remember their space on the library shelf accurately. Don't buy them - you can access them via Westlaw and LexisNexis, and any Restatement stuff that's necessary for your courses will either be in your casebooks or your prof will give it to you.

(They're not even necessarily controlling law - it depends on the doctrine and the jurisdiction, whether courts have adopted the Restatement.)

(Myself, I HATE using a book someone's written in, so I buy new.)

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#91374 - 08/20/10 12:16 AM Re: Questions about books [Re: kittydoctor]
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I didn't buy used either, I wanted my own notes and highlighting. I'm funny that way. Though, I did sell at the end of each semester.

Don't buy the Restatements, if you need them read them on-line.
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#91375 - 08/20/10 12:48 AM Re: Questions about books [Re: grannylaw]
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
I concur. The only reason I have restatements around is because I stupidly started following the PLS II plan. (And by "started", I mean "bought stuff".) To this day, I get spam from ALI. Didn't crack a restatement until 6 months after the bar exam.

I also refused to buy used unless that's the only way I could find a book. (That happened a couple of times.)

Get the ISBNs for your books, one way or another. Then go online searching, esp. Amazon Marketplace and Half.com. You'll occasionally find some killer deals on brand new books. I got several brand new books for less than half the price of bookstore used books. (My greatest find was my Crim Law book. ~$110 at the bookstore. I got a brand new copy in shrinkwrap for $30.)

I found others' highlighting way too distracting, and others' book-briefing was more than I wanted in the book.
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#91376 - 08/20/10 03:47 AM Re: Questions about books [Re: forthguy]
Cop2LawSchool Offline
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Registered: 03/11/09
Posts: 9
Loc: NC
Hello,

I wanted to mention that the Restatements are available through the Lexis Nexis subscription you have through your law school. It is located under the search tab. Corbin on Contracts is available as well. So, in effect, you have already purchased the book(s) through your law school tuition. (Don't forget about the "free" printer in the library. I actually found the explanatory notes of the Restatements helpful, but the class can only cover just a few of the principles discussed. Good luck with your first year.

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#91381 - 08/20/10 12:44 PM Re: Questions about books [Re: Cop2LawSchool]
forthguy Offline
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Depending on the school, one may not get access to the online services right away. We didn't get access to Westlaw and Lexis until second semester, so that we could learn to use the resources most of us would actually be able to afford as new lawyers.

That said, the restatements are available in paper form, too, on those shelves that surround where most people study.
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#91384 - 08/20/10 01:53 PM Re: Questions about books [Re: forthguy]
oldlawgirl Offline
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Do not buy unless the professor has specifically told you to do so. It is likely you will never need them for those classes.
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#91402 - 08/22/10 06:51 PM Re: Questions about books [Re: oldlawgirl]
backbencher Offline
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Loc: Florida
My 2-cents: 2dRST of K is frequently required, as is UCC. I have never heard of any other classes, including torts requiring them.

Once you have the courses you will see that contracts, by its nature in this national and global economy, has evolved towards the unified standards the Restatement and UCC offer, regardless of state efforts to still do their own thing. In most other areas of basic law, this is not so. Perhaps the most useless thing you will see in 1L is the "Model Penal Code." No state uses it as is, and even those who do sort of cherry-pick the thing. Fortunately (or not) it will probably be an appendix to your Crim Law text. Of course, my professor loved the MPC!
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#91403 - 08/22/10 07:46 PM Re: Questions about books [Re: kittydoctor]
kittydoctor Offline
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Registered: 07/18/06
Posts: 1219
Loc: West Texas
I am not buying the Rest's or UCC. This summer, we had K class, and prof provided rest's and UCC arts 2 and 9.

Call me a nerd, but I love the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Prof also assn'd a book that takes you through a hypo case from complaint to judgement, a how to book. I read it over two 1/2 days. Illustrated Guide to Civ Pro, I think. It's wonderful, and should be read before case book stuff.

Then, on email today, visiting LP prof reco'd books, only two of which I had, and has an assn out of the three I don't have. Will hit the library to read assn until Amazon comes through.

Same prof kicked my butt again today. He copies emails to everyone with comments. He has a cool hypo for the next two days, though, where the characters are from Harry Potter. I'm shutting up, tho.

In practice briefing classes last week, I heard some of the dumbest comments ever. Not that I'm the sharpest knife in the drawer, but don't you think that people would think? One prof in vet school called it 'diarrhea of mouth, constipation of thought.' We do not want to talk to hear the sound of our uneducated voices.

Trying to fit everything into giant roller. Fuller brushes, anyone?

Other thoughts: I went out to lunch with friends today-yes, the day before! Then studied a coupla hours in the library. Tension was palpable, so I went swimming. Last Tuesday, while shaking it in Zumba class, I thought of people starting to really stress about school. I know it's going to be hard, and I'm gonna have to work 10x harder, but by golly, I'm going to have fun! This is fun stuff, from as I've said before, like reading hilarious dissenting opinions, to wondering why some dumb-a is suing for BS reasons. Interesting cases, and the hypos the profs make up are classic.

To all 1Ls who start soon, me and King tomorrow, kick some legal A$$ for the KD. Do it by remaining SILENT.
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Mary

The cow is of the bovine ilk,
One end is moo, the other milk.
Ogden Nash

First veterinarian admitted to TTU!

My blog: DrinkingOutOfTheTrough.com

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